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9:39 am
February 22, 2012


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Today starts my Miltary in Metal interview series.  Today's interview kicks off with Phil McSorley of Cobalt.  Enjoy!

 

http://www.lukephysioc.com/blo…..interview/

10:58 am
February 22, 2012


ghettohed

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Did you know its against the law to claim you have a military medal? They're trying to repeal it, cuz free speech and all. I think it should only be illegal if its used for financial gain or federal benefits.

11:00 am
February 22, 2012


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Yes, I did know that.  I think it should be against the law.  The types of medals that are faked are usually earned for something that shouldn't be lied about.

11:05 am
February 22, 2012


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don't get me started on the disability determination in this country… that is just fucking weighed down by lead.

 

I'm glad that the dude touched on the over glad handing and thank you-ing of people. I wish he came across a little more open minded though. Not everyone is going to agree with a militant point of view. On one hand he pretty much says it's a job and on the other hand I get the feeling that he thinks that if you don't think that the Army is great then you are wrong. I'm starting to get it that interviews can only express a certain extent of what a person really feels for a subject.

One man's 9 out of 10 is another's 18 out of 20.

11:17 am
February 22, 2012


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See, what I got is that, for him, the Army is a vessle.  He saw himself as a warrior and did whatever it took to become that.  He's not serving the Army so much as he's made himself into a modern day warrior.  He is a one of a kind.  He actually IS what a lot of guys in the Army PRETEND to be.

12:50 pm
February 22, 2012


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HATE said:

Yes, I did know that.  I think it should be against the law.  The types of medals that are faked are usually earned for something that shouldn't be lied about.


Wasn't there something in the news about this recently?

1:08 pm
February 22, 2012


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Not sure, it happens somewhat frequently- or more than you'd expect, in my opinion.

1:24 pm
February 22, 2012


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Interesting read will stay tuned for more. 

 

The Occupy Wall Street question seemed a little wierd to me, the only bands ive seen support it is napalm death?? But maybe i just havent payed attention.

 

Will have to listen to Gin soon again. I dont have it on my computer cause macbook couldnt figure out what the album was with all the many tracks when i tried to rip it, and the acutal cd is at my parents house.. Oh well 

Hardcore things are like building homemade fireworks, taking risk, and headbanging at all shows. Live the hardcore life 

1:28 pm
February 22, 2012


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I loved it Luke, great read. The fact that he's pissed people off just by having different opinions makes me a bigger fan of his than I already was. The "cruelty free coffee" line made me laugh.

1:31 pm
February 22, 2012


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Thanks, man.  I hope it does stir up conversation.  People should get mad if they're so inclined.  I don't agree with everything Phil said, but I sure as fuck respect him for speaking his mind.  People need to have their opinions and thoughts challenged more.  Words mean nothing if not backed up with confidence.

1:35 pm
February 22, 2012


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Americans have too much confidence.

1:47 pm
February 22, 2012


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There could definitely be a balance in a lot of areas.  At the same time, we broadcast it the loudest.  We don't have a poker face.  We're proud, but there are plenty of other countries who are just as proud- we just happen to voice it the loudest.

1:57 pm
February 22, 2012


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LR, when are you moving to Europe already??

2:00 pm
February 22, 2012


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snake_plissken said:

LR, when are you moving to Europe already??


If I could find work over there then I would (hell, even Canada). If I ever have kids I think they'd have a better life there.

 

As for my comment, I had this in mind (a doc that was widely praised by conservatives):

 



2:08 pm
February 22, 2012


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I lived in Europe for five years and traveled through Canada significantly to where I actually lived there for two months straight.  No country is perfect or without their problems.  It's easy to think ours are the worst when, once again, they're broadcast the loudest.

2:12 pm
February 22, 2012


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And to say that kids would have a better life in Europe?  Sorry- that's dependent on how they're raised and how things are in the home.  My friends in Europe had just as many or just as few problems as American kids.

2:28 pm
February 22, 2012


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I just have to laugh at things like that. Grass is greener, indeed.

2:40 pm
February 22, 2012


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And to say that kids would have a better life in Europe?  Sorry- that's dependent on how they're raised and how things are in the home.  My friends in Europe had just as many or just as few problems as American kids.


How one is raised is a factor in any country, but beyond that there are other factors. The US ranks lower (sometime much lower) in life expectancy, quality of life, health-care and education. Raising kids in a country with a far higher ranking would seem sensible in allowing a higher probability for a better life.

3:43 pm
February 22, 2012


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Never mind.

6:47 pm
February 22, 2012


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Great interview. He reminds me of a good friend of mine, and he's batshit crazy, but he's one of the funnest and most loyal people to be around (if you know him already, otherwise he's very intimidating).

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7:51 pm
February 22, 2012


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See, what I got is that, for him, the Army is a vessle.  He saw himself as a warrior and did whatever it took to become that.  He's not serving the Army so much as he's made himself into a modern day warrior.  He is a one of a kind.  He actually IS what a lot of guys in the Army PRETEND to be.


I don't know the guy so I can't say anything about this really.

On the topic of people wanting war and being in war though… I dunno, it's not where I am personally so I have a hard time sympathizing with that point of veiw. I don't want you to take it as me being negative though Luke, it's just another perspective which I am speaking from. I enjoyed readinging it though. It gave me the opportunity to take what he was saying and compared it to my personal ethos.

One man's 9 out of 10 is another's 18 out of 20.

7:54 pm
February 22, 2012


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HATE said:

There could definitely be a balance in a lot of areas.  At the same time, we broadcast it the loudest.  We don't have a poker face.  We're proud, but there are plenty of other countries who are just as proud- we just happen to voice it the loudest.


I think we do a pretty good job being the poster boy for nationalism. SO I agree.

One man's 9 out of 10 is another's 18 out of 20.

8:49 pm
February 22, 2012


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fearofbirdshit said:

HATE said:

See, what I got is that, for him, the Army is a vessle.  He saw himself as a warrior and did whatever it took to become that.  He's not serving the Army so much as he's made himself into a modern day warrior.  He is a one of a kind.  He actually IS what a lot of guys in the Army PRETEND to be.


I don't know the guy so I can't say anything about this really.
 

On the topic of people wanting war and being in war though… I dunno, it's not where I am personally so I have a hard time sympathizing with that point of veiw. I don't want you to take it as me being negative though Luke, it's just another perspective which I am speaking from. I enjoyed readinging it though. It gave me the opportunity to take what he was saying and compared it to my personal ethos.


And that is probably the best response I've heard yet.  The response to Phil's interview has been mostly negative, as expected.  I respect him though, a great deal.  As for my viewpoint?  Well i wasn't interviewed, but I'd say it should be somewhat apparent where I LEAN if I am out of the Army next month.

9:25 pm
February 22, 2012


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because of how I come across online sometimes I think that a lot of people think that I don't respect much. this isn't the truth. the guy has points that he's entitled to. I respect what he's saying and that has nothing to do with his music, I don't even listen to it. But again, I have my own ideas on the subject. I base it on what was told to me from the perspective of people in my life who have served or have had family members who served. I can see that this scratched quite a few people's asses today so it made me wonder what the deal is.

What would have sucked is if it was predictable and there were several interviews which all said the same thing, If anything I think I want to read the next one more. I feel that I'm a pretty tough person to please and so far this has more substance to it than a lot of stuff which I have read recently.

One man's 9 out of 10 is another's 18 out of 20.

9:39 pm
February 22, 2012


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I really appreciate that, Joel.  That's why I wrote it.  Interviews can be really boring and I thought this was a way to present something I haven't seen done yet.  Today's negative responses came from the music community.  Tomorrow, I'll hear about it from the people I work with after they see the next interview because it's a very, VERY different viewpoint from McSorley's.

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